David Savage Interviews John Levay of ThereYouAreJesus, on the Savage Podcast “Wrestling with the Inner Man”

Sharing a powerful first-hand afterlife experience: Encountering Jesus, Witnessing the Throne of God, and returning with a message to Restore the Seven Spirits of God into Christian Doctrine.

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John’s Open – During this Holy Week from Palm Sunday through Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday, I am honored to be a guest on David Savage’s podcast “Wrestling with the Inner Man.” We go into details about the two times I have been with Jesus Christ. This episode is about 47 minutes in length and there is a link above as well as a little further below for you to listen. Thank you for being with us!

David’s Summary – I’m posting this episode on Good Friday ahead of Easter Sunday for 2026. This is the high Holy season of the Christian faith and for most of us, it is our fear and uncertainty of what happens to us when we die that we wrestle most with in deciding to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. It all comes down to belief in the fact that Jesus died on the cross for all of us to atone for our sins and then was resurrected from death to live forever.

A popular book and movie by the same name, “Heaven is for Real” truly piques our curiosity because it describes an afterlife experience. My guest for this show is John Levay. John has an incredible story of his own about being killed by his father as a nine year old boy and having a very vivid afterlife experience where he met his grandfather in heaven who took him to meet Jesus but was then resuscitated back to life by his father after experiencing deep remorse! John tells his story and how almost 44 years later his memory of the event returned to him in great detail after being repressed all that time.

He also relates a second vision of Christ after a desperate prayer during a church communion service. He then shares about wrestling with what God wanted Him to do with the revelations he received which were very specific about letting others know about the Seven Spirits he saw. These Seven Spirits are mentioned in the Bible and comprise specific elements of the Holy Spirit.

This is truly a goosebump producing episode which should help confirm your belief in heaven but also create a desire to learn more about the Seven Spirits and their purpose.

John’s website is www.thereyouarejesus.com where you can learn more.

Visit www.thesavagepath.com for more on David, his book The Savage Path: A Memoir of Modern Masculinity, and the Savage Path Ministries Corp.

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Happy Easter to You! He Is Risen!


Clicking the image above will Link you to Amazon’s page for David’s book titled The Savage Path.


If you would like to watch Beloved Gallery’s 1:48 video of John Levay confirming the accuracy of Akiane Kramarik’s Prince of Peace portrait of Jesus (screenshot directly above) here is the Link Click Here to watch Beloved Gallery’s video.




Special Notation for You!

Two of the main contributions ThereYouAreJesus provides for Christianity are: Documentation of Modern-Day Interactions with God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; and Recovering God’s Seven Spirits from the abandonment that began when they were left out of the early version of Christian Creeds. Our purpose is to Restore into Christian doctrine the worthy magnification of all Seven Spirits of God which are the operating system for God’s Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. Names of the Seven Spirits are: Knowledge, Understanding, Wisdom, our Lord Jesus Christ, Counsel, Might, and reverent Fear of our Lord.

One of the main reasons why they are being excluded from church services today is because they were excluded from the “early” creeds centuries ago.

Those early creeds were simply to provide concise summaries of core beliefs such as Christmas, Good Friday, and Resurrection Sunday. They helped spread the news of Jesus Christ amongst a largely illiterate society, but their priority was Not in the Details. They did not include the complexity and depth of such things as the “seven-fold manifestation of God’s Holy Spirit” even though God’s Seven Spirits are clearly written in the Bible’s Old Testament (BC) “Book of Isaiah,” and New Testament (AD) “Book of Revelation.”

This exclusion leaves the Book of Isaiah’s “prophecy” about the Seven Spirits – and John the Apostle’s “visions” of the Seven Spirits in the Book of Revelation – neglected and unexplored – thereby missing out on the realization that the “prophecy” and “visions” are “connected.” Isaiah’s prophecy is like a lens that reaches centuries into the future by foreseeing John the Apostle’s “visions.” The reason this is important is because when the Apostle John sees the Seven Spirits, he is not presenting new doctrine or an isolated mystical vision to be ignored. Quite the contrary, the Apostle is continuing the revelation and doctrine that the Prophet began centuries earlier.

This exclusion led to an unintentional, and historic, “narrowing” of Christian Doctrine as the more recent and formalized creeds are based on those earlier, less detailed versions of the creeds. As a result, today’s Nicene Creed and Apostles’ Creed exclude any mention of God’s Seven Spirits – which is a contributing factor to why today’s churches are excluding the “Seven Spirits” of God’s Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ from their worship services, choosing to provide much less detail than what God wants for His Holy Spirit.

The way to Repair this deficiency is to Reverse the unintended narrowing of doctrine by Including God’s Seven Spirits in the Training required of our fellow humans who want to become religious leaders. This includes but is not limited to training for Priests, Ministers, Deacons, and Bishops.

Training for Priests currently includes: Seminary Formation; and Priestly Formation.

Additional Training for Bishops includes: Living Our Vows; Episcopal Formation Program; and Board of Bishops.

I prayerfully ask you to Join this growing movement to restore God’s Seven Spirits into Christian Doctrine as part of our Worthy Magnification of the Holy Trinity: God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

There are numerous ways you can help, such as: Telling people about the Seven Spirits by learning and sharing with others; Watching for the number “7” appearing as part of meaningful coincidences in your everyday life – and writing down what made them a coincidence – just like we do here on ThereYouAreJesus. This exercise will enhance your two-way communications with God. One way communication is when you pray and nothing happens. Two way is when you understand how God likes to communicate with humans. You can see many documented examples of such evidence in the category titled Numbers” and the “Seven Series on ThereYouAreJesus.

It is the Relevance, Timing, and Repetition of coincidences that will eventually convince you that they are actually real communications and No Coincidence at all. For example, God and our loved ones who are with God, “can” hear our prayers, but we as humans “can’t” hear theirs – and until the day comes that we change from human beings to spiritual beings like they now are, we will not have the luxury of hearing their mental telepathy (prayers) the way they can hear ours. However, one way they can respond to our prayers is through “actions” that we can see. These actions, in response to our thoughts and prayers, are the language of two-way communications between heaven and earth.

Another important way you can help God Restore the Seven Spirits into His churches is by asking churches if they ever include God’s Seven Spirits in their Sermons and Lessons. if not, ask why. If you sense they need more information, and teaching resources, we can help!

Let them know about our website (ThereYouAreJesus.com), our mission (Restoring the “Seven Spirits of God’s Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ”), and that we will share with them a powerful first-hand afterlife experience of: Dying, Witnessing the Seven Spirits of God at the front of God’s Throne, Encountering Jesus Christ at the entrance to heaven, and then returning to earth by way of cardiopulmonary resuscitation, with a message, to Restore the Seven Spirits of God into Christian doctrine.

This is Huge. This is Revelation.

Spiritual Revelation is the unveiling of divine truth, knowledge, and mysteries from a higher power to humans, replacing non-experiential knowledge with experiential knowledge – to provide profound insight, guidance, and transformative understanding. Experiential knowledge is understanding gained through direct, personal experience, action, and reflection – rather than through theory or secondhand information.

So Help Me God – and God “Gives You” the ability to do this – in the Book of John, Chapter 20, Verse 21 – where Jesus says: “Just as the Father has sent Me, I also send You.”

To help you share our message from God – you can give them this link – it explains What we are asking, and Why: Restoring the Seven Spirits of God’s Holy Spirit.

Also, please share my email address john@ThereYouAreJesus.com so they can contact me directly.

Thank you so much!

John Levay
I am George’s Messenger for the Seven Spirits of God’s Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.


John Levay
John Levayhttp://thereyouarejesus.wordpress.com
Contact: john@ThereYouAreJesus.com

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